I can summarize the entire three days in just a few sentences:
"Love is hate"
"Freedom is slavery"
"Checks should be made out to Watch Tower, that's TWO WORDS"
the talk outlines for the summers conventions are only being printed over the next 2 weeks or so.. the finished outlines were ready in the middle of december 2009, however sources that i trust tell me that at least 5 of the talks were returned for last minute rewriting which is highly unusual.
this has held up the printing until now, a delay of over a month.
this is a fact!!.
I can summarize the entire three days in just a few sentences:
"Love is hate"
"Freedom is slavery"
"Checks should be made out to Watch Tower, that's TWO WORDS"
i now know that i didn't get it right the first time when i said ".
(matthew 24:34) "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.
" for that blunder i must apologize.. .
The picture should be on T-Shirts. Priceless.
damn,many jws claim that lord of the rings is "demonic" "satanic" "promotes spiritualism" and that fairies,goblins,trolls and other fantasy creatures are satan's minions and that we should not read/watch etc anything like that.however,elves and the rest are not real and the stories are fictional.can't a jw read a sci-fi or fantasy book?pffff.
I have never read a SF or Fantasy book with more supernatural events, pagan worship, and demons than the "Holy" Bible.
"the truth will set you free!".
" to everyone outside of their organization it is a "sealed book.
" "not open to the understanding of anyone else?
the Aposte Paul wrote the majority of the Christian Greek Scriptures. He was one of those INSPIRED men of God. One of the Holy Men of God that recorded what Jehovah wanted Man-kind to know. He was a chosen vessel to Jehovah,
Do you have anything at all other than Paul's own "say-so" to support that assertion?
WTWizard makes an excellent point. Pauline Christianity bears very little resemblance to "the truth" Christ preached that would set his followers free.
said to myself & others by a jw elder.. i always recall this as a sort of .
when this elder was pressed on the matter, he replied that it was because of all the years of laughing & sneering & mocking that he had put up with, quoting the scripture that goes along the lines of 'where is this promised presence of his'.. i realise now that this person is not loving.
and yet, i would hear similar sentiments from others such as 'just wait until the end' or 'i wonder if they'll be saying that when jesus comes with his big sword'.. even as a jw pioneer, the thought of such a thing happening to people repulsed me.
Who in this world has enslaved or oppressed JW's?
The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society
it cracks me up when i read a really dramatic "good bye to jwn" or "im outta here" threads only to see them posting a few days later.
what is the point?
if you want to stop posting for a while, then stop posting........and then if you want to start again, go for it.. are you just trying to get attention?.
This thread offends me. I'm leaving!
Wait.
Nevermind.
sorry, to be so blunt- for a whole day i have watched people here patting themselves on the back- we're a large army, oohh, look out wt, we might do something, well not today or tomorrow, but someday!
maybe, i have to just accept that a lot of jw's who are exiting the kh by the back door will never find a backbone to stand up to mummy and elder daddy.. jw's have a learned ability to see themselves in a better light than everyone else sees them.
ask a jw, if they are a charitable religion and they would likely all say they are, but when pressed to name a charity they will be unable to do so.
Uber-Dub, Faded, DA'd, DF'd - apparently being critical and judgmental isn't exclusive to any one group.
said to myself & others by a jw elder.. i always recall this as a sort of .
when this elder was pressed on the matter, he replied that it was because of all the years of laughing & sneering & mocking that he had put up with, quoting the scripture that goes along the lines of 'where is this promised presence of his'.. i realise now that this person is not loving.
and yet, i would hear similar sentiments from others such as 'just wait until the end' or 'i wonder if they'll be saying that when jesus comes with his big sword'.. even as a jw pioneer, the thought of such a thing happening to people repulsed me.
Since I'm still technically "in" I like to use those occasions to correct the Dub's misunderstanding about what's supposed to happen (most dubs, even dub elders, don't have the doctrine down). I like to remind them that the paradise isn't after Armageddon. After the Big A, it is 1,000 years of cleanup and field service, which is doomed to the same sort of 'success' that today's ministry is accomplishing - namely, just about none, followed by another period of persecution and testing, then ANOTHER destruction of the wicked (this time including Satan), and THEN, IF they survive all that, MAYBE they will be able to live in a paradise.
THAT is the official doctrine, but few dubs ever view it that way.
thread for nasticanasta to have at with proof that it does..
Using a book with dubious credibility as evidence doesn't exactly bolster one's case. Maybe that's just me though.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/more-than-50-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-arrested-in-russia-for-taking-part-in-a-public-protest-17853.html.
Public protest? Isn't trying to influence the government's laws being "a part of the world?"